Most of us say our identity is “in Christ,” but our real god is often our spouse, our job, our kids, our ministry, or even our pain. In this candid conversation, J. Warner Wallace shares how, even as a Christian and apologist, he discovered that his deepest devotion had quietly shifted from Jesus to his marriage—and why ANY time we build our identity on good but “shiftable” things (relationships, success, health, platform, trauma), we’re setting ourselves up for future collapse. He explains why everything God gives us for our good can become a counterfeit god when it moves into first place, and how to recognize what’s really sitting on the throne of your heart.
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